Friday 9 January 2015

KARNA FAILED IN SWAYAMWAR (UPDATED THREAD)







AS PER ALL SANSKRIT EDITIONS AVAILABLE ONLINE,KARNA FAILED IN SWAYAMWAR.

BELOW IS THE LIST OF SOURCES WHICH PROVE THAT KARNA FAILED IN SWAYAMWAR-

1)Sanskrit Edition of Mahabharat(on Sacred-texts)...[Full Sanskrit Edition]

2)Geeta Press complete edition of Mahabharat...[Full Sanskrit,Hindi Edition]

3)Dakshinatya Kumbakonam edition of Mahabharat...[Full Sanskrit Edition]

4)BORI Critical edition of Mahabharat...[Full Sanskrit Edition]

5)Mahabharat Tatparya Nirnaya...[Full Sanskrit,English Edition]

6)Nilkanatha Commentry of Mahabharat...[Full Sanskrit Edition]

7)South Indian Recension of Mahabharat by P.P.S. Sastri...[Full Sanskrit Edition]

8)K.M. Ganguly's Translation of Mahabharat...[Full English Edition]

9)C Rajgopalachari's Mahabharat...[English Summary of Mahabharat]

10)M.V. Subramanian's Mahabharat...[English,Telugu Summary of Mahabharat]

11)Pratap Chandra Roy's Translation[Full English Translation]

12)M.N. Dutt's Prose Translation[Full English Translation]

13)H.J. Resnick Translation[Full English Translation]

14)Bharatmala Summary(Kerala)[15th Century Summary]

15)Swami Vivekandand's Opinion on Draupadi Swayamwar...[Expert Opinion]

16)Prof. Veeranaryanan Pandurangi's Opinion on Draupadi Swayamwar...[Expert Opinion]

(Professor Pandurangi has translated Mahabharat tatparya nirnaya in english,he was awarded the Maharshi Badrayan Vyas Award for Sanskrit by Honorable President Mrs. Pratibha Patil)

YOU ALL CAN CHECK THIS POST CONTAINING THE SLOKAS/EXTRACTS FROM ABOVE SOURCES - http://on.fb.me/1zLx0ON


SO I HOPE AFTER THESE PROOFS FROM 16 DIFFERENT SOURCES,NOW ITS CLEAR THAT KARNA WAS NOT STOPPED IN SWAYAMWAR DUE TO HIS CASTE,HE FAILED DUE TO HIS INCAPABILITY.

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EXPOSING PROPAGANDAS OF KARNA FANS REGARDING DRAUPADI SWAYAMWAR-

1)PROOF FROM SANSKRIT SLOKAS GIVEN BY KARNA PAGES-

The Sanskrit slokas given by Karna fans are interpolated,they are not given in any Sanskrit edition of Mahabharat,that's why karna page admin failed to give the link of those slokas from the Sanskrit edition on sacred texts.So those slokas cannot be trusted.

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2)GEETA PRESS PROOF GIVEN BY KARNA FANS-

Karna page admin has given the proof from the Extracted version of Geeta Press,also known as Sankchipta Mahabharat.Its not the correct source if you want to do a comprehensive analysis because its 'Sankchipta'.It does not contain line by line sanskrit slokas and its hindi translation.Extracted editions are good for normal reading but not good if you want to do a detailed research on topics like Karna's failure in Swayammwar.

What's more funny is that the admin of karna page called geeta press edition to be KMG hindi edition,LOL,later he edited his post and rectified his mistake 

We have given proofs from the complete edition of Geeta Press,as per that,three slokas say that Karna failed,one says that he succeeded and was stopped.The most important thing is that author has concluded Karna failing in the task by writing a footnote that Karna failed to string the bow (Check out post shared above for details)

You all can download the six parts of complete geeta press editions here: http://bit.ly/1BupOpm

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3)PROPAGANDAS FROM KMG TRANSLATION-

One Extract from KMG says that Karna succeeded and was stopped by draupadi,while three extracts from KMG say that he failed.We have proved before that one extract is an interpolation in the manuscript from KMG translation.

A)Karna's name listed among the one's who failed in the task-

Then those princes--#Karna, Duryodhana, Salwa, Salya, Aswatthaman, Kratha, Sunitha, Vakra, the ruler of Kalinga and Banga, Pandya, Paundra, the ruler of Videha, the chief of the Yavanas, and many other sons and grandsons of kings,--sovereigns of territories with eyes like lotus-petals,--one after another began to exhibit prowess for (winning) that maiden of unrivalled beauty. Adorned with crowns, garlands, bracelets, and other ornaments, endued with mighty arms, possessed of prowess and vigour and bursting with strength and energy, those princes could not, even in imagination, string that bow of extraordinary stiffness.


Karna fans say that it was son of Gandhari here,that's why 'Prince' is used here,karna was King of Anga.

EXPLANATION:

Salya,Aswathama,ruler of kalinga(Suvajra) were also kings,they are also referred as 'Princes',Karna has been named first,so it has to be Angaraj,son of gandhari would never get so much importance.

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B)Clearly written "Radha's Son" failed-

And that bow which Rukma, Sunitha, Vakra, #Radha's #son, Duryodhana, Salya, and many other kings accomplished in the science and practice of arms, could not even with great exertion, string, Arjuna, the son of Indra, that foremost of all persons endued with energy and like unto the younger brother of Indra (Vishnu) in might, strung in the twinkling of an eye.


Karna fans say that here some other son of Radha is referred ,a brother of Karna.

EXPLANATION:

If it was a brother of Karna,that means he was also a sutaputra.So how could one sutaputra be allowed to take part and other sutaputra(karna) be rejected because he is a suta. (KARNA FANS EXPOSED)
Radha's son was Karna(Anagraj),not any brother of Karna.

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C)Proves that no one succeeded before Arjun in stringing the bow-

Ye Brahmanas, how can a Brahmana stripling unpractised in arms and weak in strength, string that bow which such celebrated Kshatriyas as Salya and others endued with might and accomplished in the science and practice of arms could not?


Karna fans say that here 'Kshatriyas' are referred but Karna was not a Kshatriya.

EXPLANATION:

Read the narrative carefully,Karna has not been referred as a Kshatriya,Karna comes under - "others endued with might and accomplished in the science and practice of arms"

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4)PROPOGANDAS FROM PC ROY TRANSLATION AND SOME SUMMARIES-

Even as per the PC Roy's translation,three extracts say that Karna failed and one extract say that Karna succeeded.

PC Roy translation and KMG are almost the same,both have been written from the same manuscript,so both contain similar errors.It can be concluded from PC Roy's translation also that Karna failed 

Few summaries like Dutta and McKenzie say that Karna was stopped.I checked these summaries and these are not even complete,skipped a lot of things,and its really foolish to judge such complex scenarios like Karna's performance in swayamwar using summaries,they can suffer errors.However we have also provided two better summaries which are in detail and briefly cover most events in Mahabharat -C Rajgopalachari's and MV Subramanian's summaries,which say that Karna failed in Draupadi Swayamwar.

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5)MISCONCEPTION FROM MADHVACHARYA COMMENTRY(MBTN)-

As per MBTN,the bow used in druapadi swyamwar was blessed by lord Shiva so that Arjun could only succeed in the challenge as drupad wanted Arjun to win.So the Karna fans are saying that due to lord shiva's boon,karna lost and its not really a victory of Arjun.It was bound to happen.

EXPLANATION:

Karna fans did not understood the words of Acharya properly,Only Arjun could win the challenge it means that a warrior of Arjun's class of perhaps a warrior superior to Arjun could have only completed the challenge.Karna failing proves that he is inferior to Arjuna.Even Bhima could have succeeded in the task as per MBTN.

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I HOPE NOW AFTER PROVIDING PROOFS FROM 16 DIFFERENT SOURCES,AND EXPOSING THE PROPAGANDA'S OF KARNA FANS,NOW ITS CLEAR THAT KARNA FAILED IN SWAYAMWAR AND DRAUPADI DID NOT STOP HIM.

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